A few weeks ago, with a friend of mine, I went to a talk by Hillel Frisch, an Israeli professor, that was put on, I believe, by the Canadian-Israeli Committee, Pacific Region.
The talk was actually a pre-talk for a bigger talk Professor Frisch was giving the next night, and I thought it was to be about the Israeli/Palestinian situation.
Frisch, who was friendly and forthcoming, instead talked almost exclusively about the Israeli-Iranian problem.
Now let me say right here that this is how I remember the talk, from my notes. I would be happily corrected by anyone else that was there, if my retelling of the event was inaccurate.
This is how the talk progressed.
THE GOOD NEWS
Frisch began by saying there was both good news and bad news in Israel.
The good news was multi-faceted. For starters, he said, within 2 or 3 years, the majority of Jews in the world would be living in Israel – a profound success given the percentage of refugees from all countries who ever return home is satistically very low.
Since 1945, he said, some 90% of Jews had returned to their land – another remarkable fact of a people (my words) somehow trying to recover and rebuild after the Nazi Holocaust, a collective madness so heinous, so systematic, one can hardly grasp the depth of the residual psychic damage, what to speak of the physical hell itself.
Hillel talked about how other countries, like Ireland, had never been able to resurrect their language – Gaelic, in Ireland’s case, being spoken by maybe ten percent of the population.
This struggle to hold onto language is echoed among first Nations in North America and, I am sure, South America. The Israeli people and the Israeli State, in contrast, have utterly resurrected Hebrew, and almost all Israelis speak it. When I was in Israel a few years back, this too amazed me.
I was mesmerised by the country – its history, past and present, the confluence of faiths, the people I met, the process of living in heightened tension.
Admittedly I had only anecdotal experience with the Occupied Territories – but I managed to interview many different people, Israeli Jews, Arab Israelis, Christian Arabs, Bedouins and others – and one wonderful fellow who had fought in the ‘67 and ‘73 wars, who literally gave me a three hour interview on the history of the Jews from the time of Abraham.
It was an informative, enriching time.
HILLEL FRISCH
Another good news headline from Frisch was how well the Israeli economy is doing – booming (I think over 5% growth – see Naomi Klein, below) – despite the fact that since 1948 Israel has experienced only three years without terrorism (1961-63, I believe he said), and despite being virtually surrounded by enemies; the West Bank, Gaza, the Syrian State across the Golan Heights (under Assad, whom Frisch prefers to the arch-conservative Muslim Brotherhood alternative), and Hezbollah from the North.
That was the good news.
THE BAD NEWS
The bad news – or at least the worst news – was for Frisch the rising and unavoidable threat from potentially-nuclear Iran.
For Hillel, and he was up front about it, there are only two ways to deal with the Iranian problem, as he called it:
Either Israel or the United States would have to bomb Iran.
Period.
Frisch called this “Negotiations by bombing”, reminiscent, perhaps, of the current technique of “Democracy by bombing.” Not only that, Hillel seemed certain that this bombing will happen.
He added it would be better if the United States did the bombing.
If Israel did the bombing, it would bring Syria into the war against them. Israel has the power to deal with Syria, he said – and of course it does – but it would be simpler if the United States did the bombing.
He added that attacks should be focused on nuclear installments.
There is no other way.
THE LETTER
Professor Frisch talked about the letter Iranian political leader and holocaust denier (or at least questioner) Mahmoud Ahmadinejad sent to German leader Merkel, telling Germany, in short, that it was their responsibility to deal with the “Jewish Problem,” not Iran’s.
Hillel suggested that this historically significant (and repugnant – my words) idea of the “Jewish problem” needs to be controlled because it literally could, if not stopped, expand once again into the West.
That’s quite a statement.
Frisch’s views were so cut and dry, so clear to Hillel himself – and being in a room that seemed largely in agreement – I felt both clearly reminded of mentalities and desires of a significant portion of Israeli intellectuals and leaders (not to mention American intellectuals, leaders and pundits, for example, perhaps, the place from which Alan Dershowitz stands) and the similar counter arguments from the enemy (whomever they may be) – and thus felt a touch depressed.
BETWEEN THE (ENEMY) LINES
There was literally not a single mention of what the everyday Palestinian experiences living in Israel and the Occupied Territories – the giant barricade/wall, repeated road checks, having to carry ID cards, employment discrimination et cetera – nor the virtually assured downside of “negotiations by bombing” with Iran – a technique used by militants since time immemorial.
This, to me, is always unfortunate – and betrays the widest side of being human and the potential for courageous integrity.
I am always profoundly appreciative of one who through nuance, detail and courage gives insights I don’t have; of getting news from a position I hadn’t heard before, in ways that expand my thinking and heart – hopefully towards compassion, self-reflection and a deeper awareness that we are, somehow, all sisters and brothers; that most Iranians, for example, like Israelis, are so much more than their leadership and other forces.
This was not the case in this talk.
What I heard instead was Frisch’s unadulterated certainty that peace was not in the cards (in fact it wasn’t really even mentioned) – nor would it ever be – just containment and control.
TRIBES
It showed, I think, how obsessive committment to one’s “tribe” (which is so much of the world – and I use the word tribe advisedly) by definition can stunt internal-oriented yet world-centric visions of a future less violent.
In fact, the future isn’t even considered, just as it’s not with power going after resources.
The objective of tribe-oriented views risk becoming, perhaps – and sometimes necessarily, to be sure – focused in terms of immediate response (say, pre-emptive strike, if you have the power, non-State terrorism if not) and framed largely – and even intellectually – in survival, us against them.
And of course, Power does what it wants, because it can. Iran doesn’t tell the US it can’t have nuclear weapons – nor bomb them for Texas oil. Women in Iran don’t tell the men there that they too shall have equal religious power.
Remembering this must not become a purely depressing notion, but help remind us why not only peace but the potential of deeper understanding between certain groups/ideologies is so elusive, even when political leaders and media gather for what are misleadingly called negotiations (the build up to Iraq, for example) or for peace talks (the Middle East for decades).
One sees, of course, similar rhetoric so pronounced with the extremist pathologies of Osama Bin Laden and Hezbollah and so on throughout our incredible history – and heck, even in our own relationships.
COVENANTS OLD AND NEW
I am reminded of one of the Ten Commandments, Thou Shalt Not Kill, and then all the genocidal events in the Old Testament, at Yaweh’s command. Joseph Campbell, the great mythologist, rephrased it this way: Thou Shalt Not Kill (Inside Your Own Tribe).
And while you’re at it, Thou Shalt Not Covet Thy Neighbour’s Wife (but take the enemy’s wife as “booty”), as the Bible so often exhorts.
The truth is, I have for whatever reasons (genetic, cultural, perhaps a lack of a tribe or because of my privileged life), a love of diversity but an aversion to sentiments of “tribal” divisiveness and projection, be they from fear, paranoia or a sense of righteousness; be they Judaic, Islamic fundamentalists attacking the infidel and seeking Shariah Law, those who will be saved only by believing in Christ, the so-called Hindutva forgetting the overall Indian spirit and history of diversity and tolerance, more ‘traditional’ tribal battles and so on – or even Scientific dogma, that sometimes simply discards mentions of mystery and consciousness into the New Age lost and found bin.
I try to seek the road of trusting people more, hopefully with strength and discernement. This is not naive. I do believe for large parts of the world, perhaps particularly in the West, cross cultural love and respect for different beliefs is the norm – fundamentalist ignorance being the headline grabber.
When someone at the talk mentioned Palestinians as, I think, “terrorists, so-called,” a woman in maybe her 60s said, quote, “They are terrorists.”
I said, “Not all of them!” – in as sweet a way as I could, and my brain went to the news reports from last year where former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was joyously celebrating the weekend 60th anniversary remembrance of Israeli terrorist group Irgun bombing the King David Hotel in 1946.
The bombing sped up British departure from the subjugated country – which is one of the obvious reasons these types of attacks happen – killing some 92 people, most of them civilians, 41 Arabs, 28 British and 17 Jews, too (and, doing the math, I assume a few others).
The leader of that underground group was Menachem Begin, who would later become Prime Minister and was voted in 2005 the political man Israelis missed most.
Of course, ongoing suicide attacks are insane and a symptom of life losing all sacred value (interestingly, I heard elsewhere suicide bombing has been significantly lessened, obviously, since the building of the wall in Israel), but I’m still surprised when I hear uninsightful blanket statements (they are terrorists!) about a people – and disgusted should they come from me.
HUMAN NATURE
I found Frisch friendly if unexpansive. Nonetheless, I was reminded of what Doris Lessing had once said in her wonderful book Prisons We Choose To Live Inside. She said, paraphrasing her, “Never forget some people actually like war.”
Now I’m not at all saying Frisch “likes war”, but I am saying he and countless others, on all sides – and perhaps sometimes for justifiable reasons, not to mention the collective, heinous madness of the Holocaust in the background – literally see no (or nearly no) potential for increased peace or lessened tension through dialogue as a viable option, now or tomorrow.
QUESTION PERIOD
In the Question period, I said that, as I had understood what he had said, paraphrasing with a slight uncertainty to start off, “Either Israel or the US must bomb Iran – “negotiation by bombing” – preferably the US, because this would keep Syria out of the war.”
That was correct.
I added that I didn’t get any sense of hope for future from what he’d said [and very little history, I might add]; that all I felt from what he said was the unstoppability of war.
I said that there was a large Iranian Middle class that I was sure were people not unlike myself – there always are, unheard – and did he have any thoughts or plans of how all this bombing and killing could one day come to end, and what this could look like ten or twenty years down the line? Or did he really just feel that the only thing to do for the Israelis was to keep the enemy at bay by any means necessary until, say, the Messiah comes – thought to be a miltary messiah – and leads the Jewish people in battle and to their liberation?
I was not being sarcastic. I hadn’t heard a sense of strategy or hope for peace, and my question reflected what I thought I had heard, and wanted clarified.
My assessment, it turned out, even with the mention of the Messiah, was accurate. For Jews (himself and other Jews, anyway), Frisch said, any peace was thought to be “ephemeral” at best, and that, “Yes, as a religious Jew, I do expect the Messiah to come.”
This was very honest, but remarkable to me.
I wondered immediately about the power of self-fulfilling war prophecies with these three great religions – Christianity, Judaism and Islam – who believe so much in, indeed aspire to, redemption literally via the world coming to a brutal end.
This despite (or perhaps because of) all three having Abraham as their original patriarch, and a belief in the same God (not to mention their collective humanity, if there is such a thing).
Either way, I knew there was a reason I feel such a soft spot for the cyclic cosmology of the Eastern traditions.
At some point with regard to my question, Hillel did say that the only hope for countries like Iran was to become part of the global economy and choose democracy.
Without getting into the global aspects of things – many hands were up for questions – I quickly pointed out that Iran had been a democracy in the early 50s under Mossadegh, but he was overthrown in a coup by the monarchical Shah, with the complete support of British and American intelligence bent on the continued control of, of course, Middle Eastern oil.
Our news media may have lost its memory – commonly known as dementia – but people remember.
I can’t recall how the answer moved on, but the theme was clear.
IRAN
I tried to think from an Iranian point of view – the people specifically. I have heard on more than one occasion that the people generally dislike the leader but want to keep the oil, leaving them damned either internally or externally.
Imagine seeing what has happened in Iraq – the complete take over and destruction of the country, from brutal dictatorship into brutal civil war and ongoing misery – and also being threatened for the nuclear build up, a nuclear build up that was supported in the 70s by much of the leadership still around today (including Kissinger).
This from an article in the Washington post:
Lacking direct evidence, Bush administration officials argue that Iran’s nuclear program must be a cover for bomb-making. Vice President Cheney recently said, “They’re already sitting on an awful lot of oil and gas. Nobody can figure why they need nuclear as well to generate energy.”
Yet Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and outgoing Deputy Secretary Paul Wolfowitz held key national security posts when the Ford administration made the opposite argument 30 years ago…
That history is absent from major Bush administration speeches, public statements and news conferences on Iran.
In an opinion piece on Iran in The Post on March 9, Kissinger wrote that “for a major oil producer such as Iran, nuclear energy is a wasteful use of resources.” White House spokesman Scott McClellan cited the article during a news briefing, saying that it reflected the administration’s current thinking on Iran.
In 1975, as secretary of state, Kissinger signed and circulated National Security Decision Memorandum 292, titled “U.S.-Iran Nuclear Cooperation,” which laid out the administration’s negotiating strategy for the sale of nuclear energy equipment projected to bring U.S. corporations more than $6 billion in revenue. At the time, Iran was pumping as much as 6 million barrels of oil a day, compared with an average of about 4 million barrels daily today.
The [Western supported] shah [of Iran], who referred to oil as “noble fuel,” said it was too valuable to waste on daily energy needs. The Ford strategy paper said the “introduction of nuclear power will both provide for the growing needs of Iran’s economy and free remaining oil reserves for export or conversion to petrochemicals.”
Documents show that U.S. companies, led by Westinghouse, stood to gain $6.4 billion from the sale of six to eight nuclear reactors and parts. Iran was also willing to pay an additional $1 billion for a 20 percent stake in a private uranium enrichment facility in the United States that would supply much of the uranium to fuel the reactors…
“It is absolutely incredible that the very same players who made those statements then are making completely the opposite ones now,” said Joseph Cirincione, a nonproliferation expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. “Do they remember that they said this? Because the Iranians sure remember that they said it,” said Cirincione, who just returned from a nuclear conference in Tehran…
For the full article, press here.
In case anybody didn’t think so, ’sovereign nation’ is a relative term, verging on pointless (like Democrat and Republican), determined, within variables both internal and external, by the ’sovereign nation’ with, among other things, the greatest economic and/or military power.
NAOMI KLEIN
And then yesterday, not even Hillel’s good news about the Israeli economy could hold its lustre. In a revealing article called Laboratory For A Fortressed World from Naomi Klein, she counters Hillel’s (and it turns out Thomas Friedman’s) idea that “Israel is booming despite” its problems with enemies, but, in a sense, because of them. Such is the sad perversion of 21st century (and much of the 20th century) neo-liberal economics (for lack of another term).
An excerpt:
Thomas Friedman recently offered his theory in the New York Times. Israel “nurtures and rewards individual imagination,” and so its people are constantly spawning ingenious high-tech start-ups – no matter what messes their politicians are making.
After perusing class projects by students in engineering and computer science at Ben Gurion University, Friedman made one of his famous fake-sense pronouncements: Israel “had discovered oil.” This oil, apparently, is located in the minds of Israel’s “young innovators and venture capitalists,” who are too busy making megadeals with Google to be held back by politics.
Here’s another theory: Israel’s economy isn’t booming despite the political chaos that devours the headlines but because of it.
This phase of development dates back to the mid-’90s, when Israel was in the vanguard of the information revolution – the most tech-dependent economy in the world. After the dot-com bubble burst in 2000, Israel’s economy was devastated, facing its worst year since 1953.
Then came 9/11, and suddenly new profit vistas opened up for any company that claimed it could spot terrorists in crowds, seal borders from attack and extract confessions from closed-mouthed prisoners…
Discussions of Israel’s military trade usually focus on the flow of weapons into the country–US-made Caterpillar bulldozers used to destroy homes in the West Bank and British companies supplying parts for F-16s. Overlooked is Israel’s huge and expanding export business.
Israel now sends $1.2 billion in “defense” products to the United States – up dramatically from $270 million in 1999.
In 2006 Israel exported $3.4 billion in defense products – well over a billion more than it received in US military aid. That makes Israel the fourth-largest arms dealer in the world, overtaking Britain.
To read the whole article, press here.
For something a little more uplifting, take a look here at Paul Hawken’s compiling of the extraordinary number of mass movements across ideological boundaries throughout the world seeking environmental care and social justice for all. Although I think it is unwise and even spiritually immature to consider any movement “our salvation” – as Hawken does – the vibes are at least a lot broader and expansive.
Stay strong. And don’t get depressed. Keep seeking ways to believe things can be more peaceful – even in your own life, in every glance, every thought, every hello. Love more – everyone you see, if you can, in your heart, anyway. My guess is they have a lot of similar emotions, a lot of different ones, and there is much common ground for harvesting solidarity and love, joy, laughter – who knows?
Love more!
Pete
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